The answer is “yes”. And the more I am looking at genetic history, the more obvious it becomes.
As previously discovered:
Haplogroups J1c1 and J2a were 15% around 5,000 years ago amongst the Basques.
It comes to no surprise, that on the female side of Ashkenazi Jews, 1.7 Million people (20% of the Ashkenazi population) descend from one single branch.
(Which of course is unique, but no surprise considering being Jewish is being passed through the mother).
And just as the further back in time we go in the Basque region haplogroup J becoming more and more frequent, so does the Hebrew K on the female side:
(Source: 23andme)
Other studies reveal Bedouin groups being closely related to the Cohanim Jews. And the Bedouins are high in rh negative frequencies as well.
For more details continue here:
Are Rhesus Negative People Jewish?
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Thanks for doing this genetic research about the Basque people!
I was part of a government research study on my rh negative Du negative blood type. My grandmother was Basque and my father had reanauds desease mostly found in Jewish communities. I turned out in DNA to have this recessive jewish, Spanish blood mix and all my children also have the same.
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You are 1st I’ve seen – with DU variation like myself
In our history someones parents or grandparents for generations did amphetamines. That’s how you become O Rh negative. If you get a Rhogam shot and try to do chemicals pregnant you miscarry. I had my last of 4 healthy children at age 30 so I remained stupid most of my life. Now I’m just upset because I can’t believe anyone any longer. My mother was an evil mommy dearest from hell but I always hated myself. I’m proud of myself now that I understand the whole world is drug addicts but people can’t care of a war will start.
Ur full of stuff, that’s not how they got rh negative, haha so funny
Debra V.
Much like Kathy, (AB rh- )my 23& me maternal DNA: supports Northern German, Russian, Scandinavian, England, Scotland and Basque(Spanish/French) regions of the Hebraic lineage. With medical concerns of Lupus(MCTD)/Sjogrens syndrome. My paternal DNA is limited yet interesting: African (Nigeria, Sierra Leonean), Mexican(Olmec) and Southern USA. But that is all I know, since no paternal relatives available. However, 30.7% of DNA unaccounted for, with 23&me and MyHeritage and Ancestry.com. Can you shed some light on this?
Let me say that I am very thankful for all the research you have invested in this subject.
All negative rh negative blood type can’t be cloned , fully human normal size sculls, not the NEPHLIUM giants offspring, or reptiles like YouTube google is saying. has Adam extra rib , basque the tribe of Judah, Hebrew , the RHESES POSITIVE BLOOD TYPE, google non human blood can be cloned the NEPHLIUM giants offspring, named after the RHESES monkey, reptiles ,,has the D antigen floating on top of the blood surface. THE RHESES Proteins example is. PARACAS ELONGATED SKULLS OF PERU THE DNA RESULTS MORPHOLOGICAL ANOMALIES AND BLOOD TYPE BY BRAIN FOERSTER by time line world history documentary story is the first human human ancestors to stand on two legs. By Peter Kelly breaking 3 species found in same time period YouTube BRIAN FOSTER,post flood NEPHLIUM giants by RUSSAK outlook. The Canaanites nimrod Babylon nagas reptiles snakes the head hunters today in Australia offspring of Nebuchadnezzar. By ISREAL NEWS LIVE : KING OG and none of the NEPHLIUM found was whites the Indians lied
Sorry but I didn’t understand anything of what you said..
This article is very interesting, My Haplogroup is K2b1 tested through FTDNA, which I assume gives me Jewish ancestry and it showed 1% South Central Asia. I also tested through ancestry.com too and my Ethnicity estimate has me with 2% Iberian peninsula, which is the Basque region. I’m O neg. These rest of me is Irish and Western European, but I guess my blood kept it’s ancient identity. Very interesting article.
I’m 38% Iberian, 21% Irish( including Scotland and Wales) and 21% West Europe. There is a connection between Basque, Celts and Brittany. It’s quite interesting! I’m O Rh negative.
your post is from 2015 maybe you still have a way to read this
Do you have any more history information on your name Hoffmeister? We have that same name in our family tree
Hello,
I wonder what is the best procedure to indicate this group which I belong, I’m AB negative.
thanks
Miriam
Miriam AB- are the descendants of Christ! No lie keep this to yourselves sweety! They are trying to find who has this type. Be careful be very careful. YOU ARE VERY SPECIAL VERY SPECIAL
Miriam, please rephrase you question, I am not sure what you are asking for. Sub group indicators are not used here. I am AB- also.
I am ab- too hard to find info on us strange unique few I bet we are gods of some kind lol 😉
I am also A2B RH Neg, but the ‘key’ thing is the mitochondrial DNA…J.K.or whatever…mine comes form Mesopotamia/middle east area…Egypt etc..
I am Malaysian, living in in Malaysia. My blood type is Rh A negative.
Hi Jilian , I am A neg
People have traveled over many countries and had children over many continents so there u go, we are all scattered in many countries!
I have blood type o neg. I am from south africa. Coloured. What does that mean. I have hypertension and diabetes as well.
lititia no doubt you inherited your RH- Blood status your Afrikaner ancestors not your African ancestors.
Absolutely NOT! The Basque are related to the Berbers not the Jews. A Jew named Karl Marx wanted to exterminate the Basque and the Bretons and the Scots as well as the Croatians. No definitely not related.
Not to mention have you ever seen a Jewish farmer? The Basque were and are very agricultural folk apples corn wheat and like Abel they are SHEPHERDS the Basque are not the sons of CAIN! Karl Marx maternal and paternal grandparents were both Rabbis. Not the same people. Marx called them “RACIAL TRASH” so he did not see the kinship obviously. lol You tube video google Karl Marx wanted to exterminate the Basque.
YouTube would be the last place I will search to get accurate information on anything. But once again: IF there is anything to this claim, I would definitely want to read it. Otherwise, I am going to delete the comment.
Scary comments 😂 People need to educate themselves and we might as well have the Russians continue to feed us the News along with Youtube. 🤔 Perhaps people should look at it for the entertainment value and if it’s not backed up by proven scientific research, than don’t take it all for real information.
As far as the Basque people , I did research that the group as a whole has about one percent Jewish Ancestry. This does not mean that the Basque are Jews, just in case that frightened women afraid of 😱 Karl Marx Attempting will read my comment wants to know. It means the Iberian Peninsula has a lot of Jewish Ancestry along with Spanish and Portuguese.
And not to worry, Karl Marx is dead 💀 and gone so the Basque people are safe 😀
My thoughts are more along the lines of Basques and ancient Hebrews sharing common ancestry in Sumer as high mtDNA frequencies among the Proto-Basques indicates.
Susan , Why are you picking on the Russians? Russian Jews or Russians Christians?
Are you Basque or jewish?
Adolf Hitler also tried to exterminate the Jews, In his 1953 memoir In the Face of the Gallows (published after his execution in 1946), Hitler’s lawyer Hans Frank claimed that Hitler had told him to investigate rumors of him having Jewish ancestry. Frank said Hitler showed him a letter from a nephew who threatened to reveal he had Jewish blood.
Would you be so kind to share proof that that was Karl Marx’s plan. And how exactly would one man’s personal agenda (again: proof first) override science?
Sorry but I didn’t understand anything of what you said..
I am paula johnson and i am Rhesus negative A an also are my two youngest children i have only ever suffered with fluid on the brain and my two children have a constipation problem. But i am determined to find out which is my blood line. can any one shred some light on this for me.
From the link below.
“A mother who is Rh- can only pass an Rh- allele to her son or daughter. A father who is Rh+ could pass either an Rh+ or Rh- allele to his son or daughter. This couple could have Rh+ children (Rh- from mother and Rh+ from father) or Rh- children (Rh- from mother and Rh- from father).”
SOURCE:
http://www.biology.arizona.edu/human_bio/problem_sets/blood_types/rh_factor.html
I have tested several family members from both my parents on Ancestry, 23andMe and FTDNA. All of our DNA is on Gedmatch.com where I tested our DNA deeper.
We all have various amounts of Basque, Jewish and Iberian DNA. I am B – and my Paternal Aunt’s daughter has an Rh neg. blood type. No one else has shared theirs yet. This explains where it came from. My parents and siblings are all Rh pos.
just begun searching my RH – bloodtype A. find it very interesting. Will keep searching.
I am A- (I2a Haplogroup) My husband is O+. My 2 daughters are A- and O-.
99.7% European
Northwestern European 28.4%
French & German 19.9%
British & Irish 1.3%
Scandinavian 28.2%
Southern European 2.6%
Balkan 5.2%
Eastern European 7.3%
Ashkenazi .1%
23andme.com
I am one of the 20% of askanazi Jews with K1a1b1a and I am B-
Do you know where the best and most economical Haplogroup blood test could be done please? I’m in the uk
I’ve asked around and here is one answer I have received from someone in the know:
“The companies that specialize in deep subclades are Ftdna and the new LivingDNA.”
If you try them or another one, please give me feedback. Would like to be able to inform readers better as to what they can expect from each service.
HI all , i am A RH NEGATIVE and would love to find my origins, where and how do i get a DNA test and how do i use it to map my ancestory , can any one help ?
p.s. watched many of your videos Roberta 🙂
I am RH- O my Dna shows 44% Irish (includes Wales and Scotland)17% Scandinavian and 21% Europe.
My daughter and I have severe AUTONOMIC DYSFUNCTION and some RARE type of connective tissue disorder (tested for Marfan’s and most of the more common types). Our geneticists were unable to find anyone who can map our ENTIRE genome to look for a genetic abnormality as to WHY we have this. It runs in our family.
We have Rheumatoid Arthritis (I have RA) and Lupus in my aunt’s, uncles, and first cousins. We also tend to be very tall, one cousin is 6’9″. My son has Scheuermann’s Kyphosis.
I am O- and both of my children are A-.
Anyone know what might be the cause of the connective tissue disorders as well as the Autonomic Dysfunction? My daughter had to have a pacemaker implanted when she was 16.
Her geneticist said that he has 3 families with the same sets of health problems.
I’ve been repeatedly asked if we were Jewish but as far as I know we are Scottish, Irish, and Echota Cherokee.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
Mary E Joiner. your Cherekee and many other NA Tribes Sioux Ojibiwee Iroquois Denee which I have with my Irish French Native are claimed ..the native that is the Denee the tribes say are from the tribe of Dan and the Irish that are of the tribe of Dan and the French ancestry have the Basque ..My mother was the RH – that had 9 births the first of which died a blue baby. We siblings all had blood transfusion 79 years ago except the first child..but one sister below me born in a northern logging camp they could not get her to a hospital at all and the child was born an orange baby and no transfusion at all an extremely highly intelligent child she survived and became a wonderful surgery Emergency Nurse …well we all were intelligent but I saw the medical difficultes some had were the same as many other siblings of RH- RH + blood factors on my first blog reading recently, I had no clue. We all had the same difficulties repeated in so many children and families with the mother RH- blood factor and RH+ blood factor of our father. The Native, French and Irish and Scottish were on all sides of the families. I have never searched it out before but have found a sense of comraderie because so many have displayed this background of blood types.
Do try to follow the Blood type diet by Peter D’adamo. It’s the only thing the works.
The Rh negative is passed down from the fathers line and having children from mixed bloodtypes is very dangerous most do not know of the basque Jewish connection but they were there for a very long time , that is one factor I’m being rh negative am not blond or light completed but a light brown to bronze colored skin and brown eyes so not all fall into the blue or green eyes stereotype but I do have multi colored hairs on my facial hair (beard)
“The Rh negative is passed down from the fathers line ”
No, it isn’t. How do people come up with such nonsense? And if you have “read it somewhere”: Why would you blindly believe it?
“No, it isn’t.” Thank you for your firm denial, Mike. I remember reading that years ago, that only the father could pass the antigen. I sensed it was not correct and researched further. Here’s what I came up with, but I do not see it reported – ever, and I think it is significant. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
We get a blood type and an antigen (rh factor) from each of our parents so we have two blood types and two antigens (rh factor).
We are considered rh – by a Doctor only if we have TWO rh negative factors. That means we would have had to receive the negative factor from BOTH our parents. Only then are we considered Rh Negative- it becomes dominant.
But, if we have a negative and a positive antigen, the medical field will label us rh positive even though we carry the negative antigen as well. It is recessive and for some reason, not reported…., but I believe it does influence the human system more than we realize.
That’s why an (O)+ mother can give birth to an O – child. That O+ mother had a RECESSIVE O- that was matched by the father’s negative antigen. Blood is a different matter. I think both A and B are dominant over O.
This explains why the negative factor will be hidden in a family for a generation or more and then surface. It is recessive, but will eventually express through the (right) match. I often wonder if the recessive factor of RH – is a way of surviving….
My father is AB- and so am I.
I’m new to this forum, trying to absorb it all (it’s confusing). My Father was AB-, I am fairly sure Mother was O+. I am B-. According to DNA testing, my Father’s side is around 75% Irish with a little Scotch, some from Finland, Norway, 10% of Icelandic. Mother side is about 75% German, the rest Eastern European, English and Irish. I have ONE DNA match in Morocco, one match in Egypt. I’m brunette with red highlights, dark, hunter-green eyes, skin medium light but tans easily.
My Father was 6 ft. 3 in., I’m 5 ft. 8 in. His Father was about 5’6″, his Mother was about 4′ 10″. One of Father’s brothers was about 5′ 5″, the other brother was about 5′ 8″ tall. BOTH of my Father’s Sisters were about 4′ 9″ and both shrunk a few inches as they aged! Most of my paternal cousins (21 of them) are very short with only 1 male that is over 6 ft. Most the female cousins are around 5 ft.4 in. or less, down to 4 ft. 8 in. I would like to know if there was a “milk man” visiting my Grandmother? lol. Or, Is there a hidden, recessive “tall gene” in my family? I’ve always wondered how my Dad (and I) got SO tall compared to the others on that side of my family!
I’m AB RH Negative and it was passed down through my mother’s line. My father is B Positive. My son also is A Negative, which came from me, as his father was also a RH Positive blood group, so I don’t think it is just passed down through the father.
John that is false statement sir, do more reasearch, it can also come from the mothers line.
Little bit late on this page but it was very interesting to read! I am A- and so is my sister. Our dna came out at 59% west euro, 16% Scandinavian, 14% irish, 5% iberian and a 2% central asia and a trace mix.
In 1993 I donated blood to ARC. I received my donor card which read my blood type as B-. About 2 weeks ago on Presidents Day, I donated blood through ARC. I received a phone call this week informing me that the blood I donated checked out. The caller I was talking to said my blood type is A-. How can that be? Is anyone out there experiencing or has experienced this?
1993 you’ve said? Here is a study from 1995:
“Our study is intended to determine if the blood types recorded on identification cards carried by U.S. Air Force personnel contain significant errors. We studied 262 active duty Air Force personnel. Eleven errors in blood type information were identified, including seven Rh type errors and six ABO typing errors. Such errors may arise when self-reporting of blood type is relied upon to create identification cards. The significance of these findings for wartime transfusion practices is discussed in light of current United States and NATO policy. Suggestions to reduce the error rate are offered.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7659225
Yes, when I was in the Army over forty years ago, I was told I was B+. However, 35 years later I was informed I was B-. I had them check me twice and the second test concurred that I am B-. While I was in the Army I donated blood a couple times and hope they rechecked it as it was classified as B+.
I am 38.6 Iberian, 1.0 Ashkenazi, O-.
My mother is RH- and our DNA National GEO test shows small amount of DNA typical of Jews in Diaspora. Family history and family legend says that we have Saphardi Jewish heritage through hidden Jews in Ireland from Portugal. I have sent off for the Ancestry DNA kit and it will be interesting to see what that turns up.
My ancestry came out as Irish, Iberian, Central Asian and Scandinavian. My Mom, dad sister and I are Rh-.
My FTDNA testing (and GEDmatch) shows variously 8% to 20% Ashkenazi, larger percentages Iberian, and largest percentage Scandinavian. B-.
I hate it when genetic tests come back with Iberian … Iberian peninsular has different areas ethnically .. and ancient tribes . It isn’t accurate to state Iberian it could mean anything
What about Ainu people of Hokkaido, Japan..?
Basques are R1b, Hittites are J2. Basques speak a Turanian language, and have done so since they invaded Europe ca 2500 B.C. with the rest of the weapon-weilding Barbarian Hordes. The Hittites were probably conquested to near death during the Trojan war. The Trojans themselves were a Pelasgian people, as was the whole Peloponnese, Western and Southern Anatolia, Crete and the Aegean Islands. We know what the Pelasgians looked like from the frescos at Knossos. They weren’t Basques. The Pelasgians were Dolichocephalic.
The Basques have Brachycephalic heads with Dolichocephalic faces… disharmonic it’s called. Some of them say they’re Cro-Magnons. 😉 But Cro-Magnons have Dolichocephalic heads and Brachycephalic faces… the opposite of Basques in every way. The most famous of the Basques was the Jesuit Loyola, founder of the Inquisition; in Cro-Magnon country, the Inquisition peaked.
The Y haplogroup R1b (M343) appeared around 12,000 years ago in the Middle East, most likely somewhere in the Levant (today Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan). These ancient forefathers were among those who developed farming in the area (but many other men of different haplogroups were also taking part.) We can distinguish three different subgroups with very different geographical distributions.
R1b-M73 (old R1b1a1)
R1b-M73 dispersed both into the West and East, reaching Spain and China, respectively. It is found rarely in the Mediterranean but several survivors went through a rapid demographic expansion in the Early Middle Ages in Inner Asia and expanded later with Turkic speaker nomads (Turkmens, Uzbek, Uyghur, Tatars, Cumans.)
R1b-M269 (old R1b1a2)
R1b-M269 is by far the most frequent subgroup today, more than half of Western European and (due to the colonization) American males belong to this line, including over 99% of the R1b project members. It is thought to have originated most likely in East Europe or West Asia around 8000 years ago(6500-8500 years with confidence). In its M269* (M269+ L23-) form, it is found rarely around the Mediterranean, Anatolia, the Balkans. We also have a Jewish cluster of R1b-M269*. “Ht35” is short for Haplotype 35, the original academic label for Eastern European and Asian R1b subgroups.
R1b-P311 (P311) [S127, P310, L11 are just upstream of P311]
R1b-P311 is the parent of the “Atlantic Modal Haplotype” or” Western European R1b”. Around 50-60% of North Italian, Iberian, German ,English and French (plus Colonial North and South American) men belong to this group, while its frequency exceeds 80% in more isolated areas like Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Bretagne and the Basque county. Its frequency is decreasing towards Scandinavia, East Central Europe and Southern Italy(20-30%), falling below 5% in Russia, the Balkans and the Middle East. It’s age is between 6500-5000 years BP or 4500-3000 BCE. It’s place of origin is likely Central Europe or the Lower Danube area, but there are claims for a more Western homeland (middle Rhine or Paris basin) as well. It is very rare in its P311*(U106- P312-) form, most people belong to one of the two big subgroups(U106 or P312). P311 and its subclades under went a rapid demographic expansion approx.5000-6000 years ago which resulted in the “invasion of Western Europe”, marginalizing the native inhabitants. It is disputed if this expansion correlated with the arrival of the Western Indo-European languages (Germanic, Celtic, Italic) – we should note that linkage between Y-DNA and languages is controversial, so I would leave this to what the reader thinks.
R1b-U106 (SR1b-U106 is the Northeastern subgroup of R1b-L11. It is most common among Germanic speakers, with a frequency peak in the Netherlands (every third man is U106+) and decreasing frequency towards other Germanic-inhabited areas (15-25% in England, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Denmark; 5-15% in Poland, France and Northern Italy; less than 5% elsewhere, including non-Danish Scandinavia). It is dated between 5500 and 4000 years ago or 3500-2000 BCE. One interesting feature of U106 is that it shows greater diversity in Poland and around the Baltic coast than in Germany and the Netherlands, so it may have appeared more to the East than its present distribution would suggest. It is yet debated if U106 people were the carriers of the Proto-Germanic language or rather represent a Germanized Northern Celtic group of people or a Proto-Indo European (PIE) folks later assimilated to Germans. U106 has several subgroups which are under research, including Z18, U198 (S29), L1 (null439),L48 (and its subgroups) and L257. None of these show a clear pattern which would make any connection to historical people possible.
R1b-U106 Distribution Map21)
R1b-P312 (S116)
R1b-P312 is the Western subgroup of L11, the most common in Western Romance and Celtic-speaking areas. It has several subclades which have clear geographic pattern, the biggest being U152 and L21 (see later below). In its P312* (U152- L21-) form, it is most common in Iberia (35-50%) and France (20-35%), but also occurs frequently in Ireland, England and Switzerland(10-20%). It is less frequent (5-10%) in Northern Italy, Germany ,the Netherlands and Scandinavia. Its small subgroup M153 is only found among Basques, while subgroup L176.2 consists of a Scandinavian (L165) and a Mediterranean (SRY2627/M167) branch. Its estimated age is similar to thatofU106, approximately 5500-4000 years before present (ybp) or 3500-2000BCE. Diversity points on France as the likely place of origin, and it is usually connected to the spread of Celto-Italic speaking populations. However, it may represent a more ancient folk (related to Basques) who only adopted Celtic languages and culture later.
R1b-P312>DF27
R1b-DF27 is a recently discovered subclade of R1b-P312 that has been found to encompass all of R1b-SRY2627 and R1b-M153. These have been considered Iberian Peninsular subclades but SRY2627 spreads as far north as Scandinavia and as far east as Germany. The old R1b North-South cluster is now also classified under R1b-DF27. (M.Walsh added DF27 section.)
R1b-P312>L21 (S145, M529)
R1b-L21 is a predominantly British and Northwestern French subclade of P312 and is often referred to as a “Celtic marker”. It is most frequent in Ireland (50-90%), England (15-40%) and Bretagne (14%). L21 is also dominant among many North Americans due to their British Isles heritage. It also appears at reasonable frequencies in Norway and historically Celtic-inhabited areas of Iberia, France and Germany (2-10%), and more rarely in East Central Europe and Italy. Its estimated age is close to that of P312, approx.5500-4000years BP or 3500-2000 BCE. It is disputed when L21 reached the British Isles, some argue for a Bronze Age (Beaker) arrival, while others argue for a completely Celtic origin. L21 has several well-established subgroups like M222,L513, DF21, DF41, Z253 and Z255.
Haplogroup R-M269
“” Haplogroup R-M269 is the sub-clade of human Y-chromosome haplogroup R1b that is defined by the SNP marker M269. According to ISOGG 2020 it is phylogenetically classified as R1b1a1b. It underwent intensive research and was previously classified as R1b1a2 (2003 to 2005), R1b1c (2005 to 2008), and R1b1b2 (2008 to 2011)[3]
R-M269 is of particular interest for the genetic history of Western Europe, being the most common European haplogroup. It increases in frequency on an east to west gradient (its prevalence in Poland estimated at 22.7%, compared to Wales at 92.3%). It is carried by approximately 110 million European men (2010 estimate).[4] The age of the mutation M269 is estimated at roughly 4,000 to 10,000 years ago, and its sub-clades can be used to trace the Neolithic expansion into Europe as well as founder-effects within European populations due to later (Bronze Age and Iron Age) migrations.[4] “”
“” An understanding of the origin of R-M269 is relevant for the question of population replacement in the Neolithic Revolution. R-M269 had formerly been dated to the Upper Paleolithic,[5] but by about 2010 it had become clear that it arose near the beginning of the Neolithic Revolution, about 10,000 years ago.[6][7][8] The R-L23 (R-Z2103) subclade has been found to be prevalent in ancient DNA associated with the Yamna culture.[9] David Anthony considers the Yamna culture to be the Indo-European Urheimat.[10] “”
Distribution – “” European R1b is dominated by R-M269. It has been found at generally low frequencies throughout central Eurasia,[13] but with relatively high frequency among the Bashkirs of the Perm region (84.0%) and Baymaksky District (81.0%).[14] This marker is present in China and India at frequencies of less than one percent. The table below lists in more detail the frequencies of M269 in regions in Asia, Europe, and Africa.
The frequency is about 92% in Wales, 82% in Ireland, 70% in Scotland, 68% in Spain, 60% in France (76% in Normandy), about 60% in Portugal,[15] 45% in Eastern England, 50% in Germany, 50% in the Netherlands, 42% in Iceland, 43% in Denmark, and 39% in Italy. It is as high as 95% in parts of Ireland. It is also found in some areas of North Africa, where its frequency peaks at 10% in some parts of Algeria.[16] M269 has likewise been observed among 8% of the Herero in Namibia.[17] The R-M269 subclade has been found in ancient Guanche (Bimbapes) fossils excavated in Punta Azul, El Hierro, Canary Islands, which are dated to the 10th century (~44%).[18] In western Asia, R-M269 has been reported in 29.2% of Assyrian males from Iran.[19] “” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M269
“” Geographical distribution of haplogroup frequency of hgR1b1b2 (R-M269), shown as an interpolated spatial frequency surface.”” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-M269#/media/File:Geographical_distribution_of_haplogroup_frequency_of_hgR1b1b2.png
looks interesting – chances are high that i’m part of this group.
Is it true that R1b comes from the steppes? Because it seems to me that the largest group would exist in the area where it was born. Like colonies that spread out from the homeland. I saw a chart that I failed to save and now cannot find that shows the Georgian group more prevalent in basquelandia, and decreasing on its way to the original Iberia. Since the entire peninsula of Iberia used to be called Liguria (according to Strabo), the Iberia name seems to have come from the Caucus with their colonies. G2 isn’t very large, so the saturation is small either way.
But with R1b, all of Europe is fairly covered, and the most thickly covered is what used to be the iceage refuge at the Pyranees. This is where we find Cro-Magnon Aurignation stations, and later find Ligurians named Gascons. The Cymry of Britain have this legend of coming from the Summerland at the deep valleys of the Peneus, to Gascony up the Loire, to Armorica, and to Cornwall. These are Lloegrwys, called Lloegrians at London, Albans at what is now called Scotland, and Cymry in Wales… all of the same race. These Ligurians were found at Tartessos, and in Italy even today… probably mixed. The Ligurians of the Riviera were Sallyes or Selyes, and held the Nemeton at Marsailles. This same sacred wood was at Dodona near the River Peneus in Thessaly. These Selyes named a mountain in Ligurian Iberia. Blood typing done in 1965 of the coalfields of Wales touches on this history related to the Cynetes spoken of by Herodotus, who lived at the Tartessos River Gaudiana. Their blood type is O… the main type of Europe, which is not surprising since Ligurians covered the south and west of Europe. Ridgeway (Early Age of Greece) found the same wires used to wrap the Pelasgian locks from Anatolia and Crete to Italy and Spain. These Pelasgians match the description Tacitus gives for the Silures of Wales and Cornwall. The Romans changed the Greek word Ligues into Ligures, and almost certainly changed the Selyes to Silures. These Silures are described as priests male and female who prophesied. At Dodona, these priests heard the doves in the oak speaking the word of Zeus. In Cornwall and Wales, they were called Druids. “Zeus, Jupiter and the Oak” (a paper by Cook who wrote Zeus, God of the Bright Sky) passed with the people into Britain. The Pelasgians are pictured on the walls of Knossos. European DNA has been found at Crete. R1b and mtDNA H are the primary groups.
So, I guess my question is this: Since the languages of Wales and Crete are both Verb-Subject-Object… an oddity in anyone’s book, and the physical description matches, along with the DNA… are we really sure that gene flow came from the Steppes?
When the archaeologists went looking for the Hittites they found the invaders thereof and applied that name to them; realizing their mistake via earlier layers, they call the indigenes Hatti. They went looking for what they expected to find. No science expects to find any first things in Europe; so we are told that, like the sun, everything rises in the east… regardless of the fact that the first Homo Sapien was planted in Europe.
Personally, I live for the day when the sun rises in Europe and the light spreads from there in both directions. Which way is east on a beach ball? Anatolia means east. East of what?
Ever heard of the great tartarian empire and seen the pictures of the Tartarian giants? Look up a few of their pictures and you will see the giant statues of the ancient tartarian deities which resemble the same deities of that from the Hindu religion. These were the first Aryans, and their history has been wiped out along with their language and any evidence that they ever existed. It was a huge empire which covered all of Asia, ‘Tibet, Russian, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Parts of Australia and all the way across to the American continent.
The DNA gene flow is a problem. The area with the greatest saturation must be where the gene originated. They show us charts with R1b the heaviest at the iceage refuge, at the foot of the Pyrenees… but they tell us it came from the Pontic Steppes… when they’re not telling us it came from Central Asia. …… Isn’t it possible that Cro-Magnon man is R1b?
i saw your other longer post from the 4th which is not public now – i have a folder of some things i’m considering, from which (hopefully soon…some days maybe) i should make a comment. you seem to have lots of knowledge and opinions…you to be seem well read…classics, linguistics, mythology and so on. – i think the book: Across Atlantic Ice: … by Bruce A. Bradley and Dennis Stanford presents a rather accurate and true hypothesis. – more later likely –
A- North African 100% European. Genetic name Italian but I know the last 18 generations was British/American. I assumed before that We was involved in Punic wars, and influx of Germanic Jews as I am same Haplotype as Einstein and Hitler and St. Augustine, which is EM35. I read that Einstein was Ashkenazi Jew.
https://e1b1b1-m35.blogspot.com/2015/06/e1b1b1-l117-chassidic-rabbinical.html
Hi Mike and the rest of my fellow rh negative origin seekers.
As you know by now, i am a deep researcher into ancient myths, legends, cultures, religions and ancient bloodlines. During my research I made a very profound discovery about the possible origins of the rh negative bloodline, I call it a bloodline because my research has lead me to believe that there was a rh negative bloodline amongst the descendants of Seth much prior to the gods (watchers / annuki / fallen angels) descending to the earth and having sexual relationship with the mortal daughters of Cain which gave rise to the nephilim demi god bloodlines.
I know you have discovered a connection between not just the Basque but also the ancient Iberians rh neg factor and a jewish connection. So I would like to elaborate on this connection. You stated in a the above comment
“My thoughts are more along the lines of Basques and ancient Hebrews sharing common ancestry in Sumer as high mtDNA frequencies among the Proto-Basques indicates”
This observation is correct if you look at it from the biblical perspective based on the re-population of the world’s people according to their different languages, cultures, and unique genetig traits which was inherrited from the 3 sons of Noah and their wives. As the story goes, All species DNA on the earth prior to the flood of Noah had been corrupted from it’s true origins and nature. ~There were nephilim /Giant/ demi god-kings on the earth that ruled over the people with great oppression, much violence and cannibalism was rife in the earth. Than one man with UNTAINTED DNA was singled out to preserve his seed. That man was Noah, He had a strange birth, though conceived through a human mother and father, he resembled the angels in heaven. In other words, Noah was born different with a UNIQUE BLOODLINE, one which he inherited through his own mother’s bloodline. That maternal bloodline traces back to a SON OF SETH, which was the righteous and godly bloodline of the wise men and kings on the earth, long prior to the annunaki’s interference. If you are aware of the Scriptures, it states that Adam the first man was created in God’s image and likeness, He is referred to as A SON OF GOD, The bible mentions others sons of god, which are angels, they look like perfect and beautiful humans, satan happens to be one of them which is why it was so easy for the sons of God to descend to the earth, marry and have sex with mortal woman and to live amongst them as humans, just as the fae folk of the celtic folklore. That is research for another topic. Back to Seth, when Seth was born, it states, he was also in the image and likeness of his father Adam. so if Adam looked like the sons of God, than so does Seth. Seth followed in his fathers footprints, Cain disowned his creator and his parents. Seth’s BLOODLINE WAS ORDAINED FOR BOTH KINGSHIP AND PRIESTHOOD.
Now fast-forward to his descendants. Seth married his sister, his son married his sister, than their children married each other and so forth, up until the birth of Mahalelel. The brother marrying his sister pattern changed to the descendants of Seth marrying the daughter of the father’s brother, which would be their first cousins that they married. You see this within the ancient hebrew descendants too and especially the rh negative royalty bloodlines. The wife of Mahalel which was his first cousin bore him a son called Jared, it was in his generation when the 200 Watchers / Annunaki came to the earth. They mingled themselves in with the descendants of Cain at first not Seth. Cain’s bloodline becomes tainted with fallen angel, nephilim DNA, Seth’s bloodline still remained pure. Jared grows up marries his first cousin and they beget Enoch, the righteous scribe. The one that was translated into archangel Metatron. In the meantime there is some crazy orgies going on within the bloodline of cain and fathers are sleeping with their daughters, mothers with their sons, pedophilia, bestiality, and the mixing of one species dna with another was taught to the descendants of cain. They were far more fruital and out populated the descendants of Seth, Whereas Seth’s descendants kept it within the family. Enoch the 7th from Adam goes on to marry his first cousin, and they give birth to Methuselah, after Enoch is taken to heaven, the people of the earth make Methuselah king over them and God ordains him as High priest, He follows in his father’s righteous steps. He also marries his first cousin and they beget Lamech, Lamech than marries his first cousin and they give birth to Noah. Noah however does not look like the rest of them. Lamech calls on Enoch and Enoch explains that God is going to raise up a different and pure seed (Righteous bloodline) such as his forefathers had to repopulate the world.
Now fast – forward to Noah’s flood, Noah ,his wife, their 3 sons and their wives are spared from the great world flood. As genetics show, Not all siblings look the same, they differ in genetic traits and even blood groups and even blood type. One bloodline sticks out amongst all other within the descendants of Noah, and it is the bloodline and DESCENDANTS OF SHEM. Shem’s bloodline traces back to all the righteous sons of Seth, and so does Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and his 12 sons which becomes the 12 tribes of Israel. As you will see tracing the Hebrew bloodline, Abraham married a close relative of his, Isaac marries Rebecca, which was his first cousin, likewise Jacob marries his first cousins and 2 servant girls, thus keeping this unique bloodline within the Hebrew nations.
So who’s in control of the world now?
So you may wonder what does the RH NEGATIVE SETHITE BLOODLINE, within the Jewish nations have to do with the basque / Iberians and even the celts. . This is where i will use some archeology and scientific research to show you the connection. But first we need to look at the after math of the great flood and where the descendants of the sons of Noah went to repopulate the world. The book of Jasher states that the ark of Noah came to rest on Mount Lubar which was one of the mountains of ararat. These mountains are in modern day Turkey which back than was known as ANATOLIA, asia minor. Now the sons of Noah and their wives first lived together in asia minor, building little cities around the mountains of ararat, dividing themselves into little family groups. When their sons began to have sons and daughters, the earth was divided into 3 regions, After the destruction of the tower of babel, ham’s descendants would go to africa, Japhet’s descendants would go to the North (major asia) and Shem’s descendants would occupy the middle of the earth, (middle east/ anatolia, sumer / babylon, iran, lebanon, and even all those areas of ancient MESOPOTAMIA. All this land belonged to the descendants of Shem. The land where Ur of the chaldees which was the birth place of TERAH AND ABRAHAM, Sumer, Uruk, Babylon, Hatti and the land canaan is located. Abraham being the forefather of the hebrew nations.
But this is not where the rh negative bloodline took off after the great flood. It’s much earlier than that, and for this you need to look towards Gobekli Tepee, also within the location where Shem’s descendants lived. Shem had 5 sons. They all first lived in the anatolian region. In fact one of Shem’s descendants was Arpaxshad again marries the daughter of Elam his brother, which makes it his first cousin, They have a son called Kainam, Whilst looking for a place where he could seize for himself a city, he found ancient writing which former generation before the flood carved on rocks in the (anatolian region) which they used to observe the omens of the sun, moon and stars that was taught by the watchers. He did not tell Noah about this, he wrote and copied these writings and the layout of these astrological signs and kept it to himself teaching it to his own descendants.
This is where it gets scientific. Kainam than marries not within his own Seth-Shem bloodline, He marries a daughter of Madai, which was a son of Japhet. And here began the first mixing of Jewish and gentile bloodline. Now if science and dna analysis has proven that the rh neg trait is recessive, than it would explain how the rh neg bloodline began to diminish when the breaking of the pure Seth-Shem bloodline occurred after Kainam a descendant of Shem married outside his family bloodline when he married a descendant from the JAPHITE BLOODLINE. Japhet does not have the rh negative trait and so with their positive traits they over powered the ancient rh neg Sethite / Shem recessive bloodline trait. If one looks at the gobekli tepee astrological connection with that of the Stonehenge in Britain, it is not that hard to see that the descendants that are mostly Japhite rh positive bloodline with a recessive carrier rh neg trait, migrated first from Anatolia, (modern day turkey) to Iberia, and from thence to Britain, Ireland, Scotland, wales, etc.
As for scientific, resources.
The bloodlines can be traced through the books of Jubillees and Jasher
The Iberian / Anatolian connection https://whoareyoumadeof.com/blog/the-ethnicity-of-the-iberian-peninsula-dna-examined/
Gobekli Tepee and Stonehenge connection. The ancestors of the people who built Stonehenge travelled west across the Mediterranean before reaching Britain, a study has shown.https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47938188
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli-archaeologists-find-hidden-pattern-at-gobekli-tepe-1.8799837
The first Jew was Judah the son of Jacob who was the son of Isaac who was the son of Abraham who lived approximately 4200 years ago. So 5,000 years ago there were no Jews or Hebrews and therefore there can be no linkage that old with Basque, Guanche or Berber people.
The bloodline is not something that began with Judah or the Jews , it is carried on through the jews, but originated through the bloodline of Shem, who’s descendants are Noah, Lamech, Methuselah, Enoch, all the way back to SETH the 3rd son of Adam, and the son that became the ruler on the ruling, controlling both state and religion, This rh-bloodline trait is A GENETIC TRAIT on the bloodline which was kept within the bloodline of God’s followers, such as the sons of Seth, than Shem, carried over to Abraham, than Isaac, Jacob and 2 tribes of Israel Judah from which the kings descended and Levi the priestly bloodline, which later on unites When Joseph a descendant of tribe of Judah, marries Mary descendant of Levi and Judah and thus Jesus was considered the King and High priest, replacing all corrupt kings of Judah and High priests of Levi’s descendants. Rh- bloodline was a trait of the kings and high priest before the flood and after the flood. History repeats
Basques and Jews related???
Well, mt Haplogroup U is the most common among the Basques, and 1/3 of Askenazis are K, which is a downstream of U. And these two haplogroups are also known for protecting you from AIDS progression.
Even though there’s a difference, Basques are located in a certain region. While Jews on the contrary have been historically wandering through different nations.
No RH- and jews are not related in origin, they were complete and utter enemies. The Europeans are homo sapiens, the jew origination is neanderthal O++ bloodtypes.
I do think the RH- people are the true people of the god of ‘light’ though. What you may be speaking of has ‘hebrews’. Europa still possesses some of these names, for instance Danish being Dan. Rh-s are usually high skulled, dolichocephalic, narrow faced, piercing eyes, long necks whereas the neanderthal are the no necked, wide bodied RH+ large face, short forehead, arab looking phenotype again of RH+ blood. These are the ‘fallen’ ones. Yet so many have tried to trick RH-s that they are ‘fallen angels’. Complete and utter lie, once again.
There is a reason much of classical European art is filled with beauty, symmetry and the earths natural forms, like beautiful wholesome animals and people. Where the neanderthal have obscure, demented, dark, broken, ‘fallen’, ‘satanic’, degenerate, abstract forms of art. Hollyweird and mainstream culture has been filled with this type of sick comedy and degeneracy.
There has also been a lie perpetrated against Europeans that they have high Neanderthal DNA, which is not true. Jews possess HIGH amounts of Neanderthal DNA, some even 15%.
The Ashkenazi have RH- percentages because for a long time they have been mating with European people.
I have a LOAD of RH- people in my family. Generation after generation producing a great majority in the family.
Here are my DNA results
Europe
100%
Great Britain and Ireland
83.5%
South England
23.5%
Southeast England
13.2%
Cornwall
5.8%
East Anglia
5.1%
Lincolnshire
4.7%
Central England
4.5%
South Central England
4.4%
Northern Ireland and Southwest Scotland
4.2%
Northwest England
4.1%
Cumbria
3.1%
Ireland
3.1%
Northumbria
2.7%
South Wales
1.9%
Devon
1.8%
South Wales Border
1.2%
Europe (North and West)
12.5%
Northwest Germanic
12.5%
Europe (East)
2.3%
East Balkans
2.3%
Europe (South)
1.7%
Aegean
1.7%
The people born in my family including cousins etc are almost all pure bleach blonde hair and blue/grey or green eyed. Out of like 15 children, 1 is light brown hair and blue eyed, while the others are all bleach blonde.
Interestingly my haplogroup and MTDNA BOTH tested as Berber.
E-L19 Paternal
H7 as Maternal
Yes I do think you are onto something about RH- being ‘hebrews’ or gods chosen people of the light. The current people who call themselves ‘jews’ are not these people, they are neanderthal offspring. Technically they aren’t even homo sapiens. Which explains why they are so different from us empathic RH-s who are highly sensitized to loving nature, animals, people and hate corruption, degeneracy and evil. We represent the complete opposite on the spectrum.
So in your DNA results, there is zero African, Asian or Ashkenazi admixture?
correct. Zero African, Asian or Asheknazi.
In fact, I just recieved feedback from my autosomal DNA as far as related tribes and it had me as a direct descendant
(The lower the number the closer the relation).
Visigoth +Vandal (4.057)
Vandal + Frank (4.717)
Saxon + Frank (5.012)
Visigoth + Saxon (5.013)
Visigoth + Celtic Dobunni (5.169)
Frank (7.217)
Saxon (8.36)
Visigoth (8.94)
Celtic Dobunni (9.231)
Vandal (9.828)
Your closest genetic modern populations:
1. Flemish (6.078)
2. West German (6.32)
3. Welsh (6.6)
4. Southwest England (7.7)
5. Southeast England (8.3)
6. South Dutch (8.7)
7. North Dutch (9.0)
8. Danish (9.7)
Just to show you, none of this is sucked out of my thumb, I have the links for you, to view and research yourself. Basque and irish connection https://beautiful-basque-country.tumblr.com/post/100065971552/muintir-parthol%C3%B3in-the-people-of-parthol%C3%B3n
Jaun Zuria’s father isS the basque god Sugaar, a Herensuge serpent creature that can transform into a man, which beguild his mother a scottish princess. Before anyone think this is mere myth, think about the nagas in the hindu religion which can also shapeshift into humans and intermarry with mortals. https://beautiful-basque-country.tumblr.com/post/36671249541/meet-jaun-zuria-first-lord-of-biscay-and-the
Legend of Melusine https://www.plantagenetdiscoveries.com/blog/angevin-kings-descended-from-devil
Jewish and Basque connection https://thecjn.ca/arts/stage-screen/jewish-footprints-in-basque-country/
So the question remains, do you think the basque, europeans and elite royal bloodlines received their rh – factor from the Jews that fled into europe and also intermarried with the europeans, or did the ancient Jewish ancestry and modern ashkenazi jews receive the rh – factor in their blood from the EUROPEANS that they intermarried with, which received this rh – factor from the nephilim fairy races in their ancestry. .. Only time will tell. Regardless which gave it to whom, i firmly believe their is a connection to the supernatural which explains the rh – strange abilities as has been claimed, such as highly intiutive perception, divination, spiritualism, schizophrenia, hearing disembodied voices, seeing thigs others can’t, sensitivity to electricity such as the fay were. The list goes on.
If what you say, is true, that the rh- factor in the blood comes from the european ancestry rather than the jewish ancestry, than it does confirm my previous research on the rh- connection with the european bloodlines, which is connected to the “fallen ones” aka NEPHELIM. Every heard of the Legend Melusine,? she is considered an ancestress to all european elite and royal bloodlines. She was also an ancestress to the Scythian bloodline which is connected to the steppe people and black sea region. Legend has it, Melusine’s mother was a water fairy called Pressine, so she is supernatural in origin which makes her Nephelim. she married the pict king elynas of elba, and had 3 daugters. with him. The pict king is connected to the Tuatha de Danaan considered to be the celtic gods and goddesses in Ireland, Wales and Scotland, so here is the connection between the NEPHILIM considered the fairy races and these 3 regions. It was also believed that the Tuatha de Danaan, the Irish deities were desceded from the druids connected to Magog son of Japheth. which is also connected to the French bloodline. and the Iberians, especially the Basque region whom considered Tubal their ancestor and founder of the basque people. But I digressed in my research so back to king Elynas whom was made to promise he will never enter his fairy wife’s chambers when giving birth or bathing her children. This may not make sense but read the book of enoch and it will. The father broke the promis and saw that his wife nor children weren’t exactly human. His wife was so upset that instead of divorce she took the chidlren and went to antother realm, the spirit realm, when her daughters were 15 they avenged their father, locked him up in a cave, their mother that had supernatural powers, cursed her children, one was locked up in the cave with her father, the other in a tower on avalon island and melusine was cursed with a shapeshifting / reptillian, one that transforms her every sabbath into a siren / nage type creature, this curse will be broken if she can find a man that will love her the way she is. She goes off to France and finds this lover a noble night, which becomes the ruler of the house of anjou, which is connected to the plantagenets, the royals of England, stewards, saxo coburg,merovingians etc. This is taught in the royal blood lines not as a FAIRY TALE OR MERE LEGEND, but their true ancestry. Many ancient irish have had encounters with the fay folk, the little people, the sidhe, and some are related to the tuatha de danaan, some not scottish / welsh are connected to the Basque ruler, Fernias Fasad whom is considered the leader of the basque people Jaun Zuria prince of Erin, who’s mother was a scottish princess and who’s father was of a REPTILE THAT COULD SHAPE SHIFT INTO A MAN. No wonder there are reptillian conspiracies. Now I ask you are most of the royals not all claiming to be rh – blood type. and if so is there not a connection to the basque people. There is also a jewish connection between the BASQUE and the house of Judah. Chocolate was brougt to the basque by the jews that flee in exile.
Hope this can shed some light for you all. Look up the Spanish Haggadah and Sephardic Jews or Shephardim, Sepharad means Spain and references the Jews in Spain mentioned in the scriptures by Obadiah
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/4838207/jewish/19-Facts-You-Should-Know-About-Sephardic-Jewry.htm
https://themarginaliareview.com/representing-the-jews-in-medieval-iberia-by-eva-frojmovic/
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-cochin-jews-of-kerala/
https://www.thelocal.com/20150908/old-bones-help-solve-basque-mystery/
Just a note on common sense. Wouldn’t the oldest and furthers back date on the Dna analysis point to the most likely origin for the R1b y haplogroup.? For instance the one thing nearly if not all rh-negative bloodlines have in common is the relation to the R1b fatherline, haplogroup, which is believed to be connected to the germanic / celtic branch. According to the website https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/results,
extensive research has been done on the R1 haplogroup and it’s subclades. The Y haplogroup R1b (M343) appeared around 12,000 years ago in the Middle East, most likely somewhere in the Levant (today Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan) the same location from which the Sumerians and ancient HEBREWS and Jewish nation originated. These ancient forefathers were among those who developed farming in the area (but many other men of different haplogroups were also taking part.
Than 8000 BCE R1b-M269 (old R1b1a2) the following subgroup of R1b originates most likely in East Europe or West Asia around (6500-8500 years with confidence). In its M269* (M269+ L23-) form, it is found rarely around the Mediterranean, Anatolia, the Balkans. Amongst this class is a cluster of Jewish R1b-M269*. “Ht35” which is short for Haplotype 35, the original academic label for Eastern European and Asian R1b subgroups. So the first mention of a jewish connection to the R1b subgroups originates 8500 BCE, whereas the R1b subgroup doesn’t show up amongst the Basque until 3500 – 5000 BCE
Because of ancient DNA extraction the historical genetic history of Europe is in flux right now. Uniparental haplogroups which in the early aughts were presumed to be relics of the hunter-gatherer substrate, but may not be that at all. The new research on R1b suggesting that it originated in Anatolia, and its high frequency in the Basques also puts into doubt the idea that the Basques are pure descendants of Paleolithic Europeans.
The Basques connection to R1b is only 3500 – 5000 years old, where as the R1b connection to the Jews is 8000 years old, and the R1b originated in the Anatolia around 12000 years ago. So which is older .. Basque R1b subgroup or the Jewish R1b-M269 subgroup? Most of us do have a connection to the Basque people as many of them are descendants of the older R1b subgroups, which are related to the older jewish R1b haplogroup that traveled through the Iberian Peninsula ( Basque country) to get to Europe. They didn’t just travel through, they intermingled and intermarried into the other bloodlines of the gentile nations before becoming the celts which ended up in europe.
The thing with Basques isn’t that they have R1b, there are many R1 in the world.
It’s their connection with a previous and older Europe.
But if we’re to say a MALE haplogroup, I1/2 would be a better candidate, since Spain and the British Isles are known for the Megaliths.
Spain, UK… Places with high Rh- also had that culture just before Bell Beakers/Yamnaya.
And before they have others in Europe, the Atlantic area
Funny you mention “Haplogroups J1c1 and J2a were 15% around 5,000 years ago amongst the Basques” in this study. When I first heard of Otzi the Ice Man, i noticed many correlations between Sardinia studies and the Basque. One such correlation, was that Otzi the Ice man, died 5000 years ago. Correlating with your article, Haplogroups J1c1 and J2a were 15% amongst the basque at the time of Otzi’s death. Another correlation was that Otzi was bloodtype O, no rhesus factor was mentioned, but let’s continue, see where it leads. Otzi’s MtDNA Haplogroup was K1, and might have been of Ashkenazi Jewish origin, and his Y – DNA haplogroup was G-M207. Otzi’s Y-DNA haplogroup is connected to the Haplogroup G2a2a2 to Gl915. His paternal genetic line is found mostly in SARDINIA. It was believed that Otzi was part of the Neolithic farmers migration that came through anatolia / turkey 6000-8000 yrs ago. Otzi’s father met his mother in Europe. Otzi’s body was discovered in the Otzal Alps, between AUSTRIA and ITALY. The modern basque are directly related to the NEOLITHIC FARMERS, which came from Anatolia, and thus has a connection to Otzi’s paternal ancestry.
Studies in SARDINIA
Almost 50% of sardinians belong to MtDNA haplogroup H1 and H3. Among europeans H3 is most prevalent among Sardinian, Galacian (Spain) and Basque people. Study has shown that the basque received their O bloodtype from their paternal Sardinian ancestry whom were desceded from the Neolithic farmers. Their mtDNA is H3 haplogroup, which has jewish connection, V as well as J1 (etruscan ) connection. Haplogroup JT is descended from the macro-haplogroup R. It is the ancestral clade to the mitochondrial haplogroups J and T.
T (predominantly J) was found among the ancient Etruscans, which are connected to Tubal’s son Saba which the sabean woman, daughters of Tubal descended from These Sabean woman feature in the Roman myth “the Rape or kidnapping of the Sabine woman.
According to https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331652869_Evidence_of_early_gene_flow_between_Ashkenazi_Jews_and_non-Jewish_Europeans_in_mitochondrial_DNA_haplogroup_H7 it state.
To investigate European introgression into Ashkenazi Jewry, the European-dominant haplogroup H mi-tochondrial DNA was examined. The results provided genetic evidence that gene flow between Jewish and non-Jewish populations occurred early in Jewish settlement in Europe with isolation of the groups thereafter. more than 85% of the carriers had Ashkenazi maternal ancestry from such diverse areas as Germany and AUSTRIA in Western Europe, Poland, and the Baltic states in Central Europe, and Moldova, Ukraine and Belarus in Eastern Europe.
Another study show Approximately 300,000 men around the globe self-identify as Ashkenazi LEVITES, of whom two thirds were previously shown to descend from a single male. The paucity of whole Y-chromosome sequences precluded conclusive identification of this ancestor’s age, geographic origin and migration patterns. Here, we report the variation of 486 Y-chromosomes within the Ashkenazi and non-Ashkenazi Levite R1a clade, other Ashkenazi Jewish paternal lineages, as well as non-Levite Jewish and non-Jewish R1a samples.