{"id":8890,"date":"2020-10-27T15:49:00","date_gmt":"2020-10-27T15:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/?p=8890"},"modified":"2021-03-30T01:17:05","modified_gmt":"2021-03-30T01:17:05","slug":"who-were-the-legendary-amazons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/who-were-the-legendary-amazons\/","title":{"rendered":"Who were the legendary Amazons?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_twitter_via = \"datebytype\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_twitter_via=\"datebytype\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"Who were the legendary Amazons?\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"388\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/amazon-warriors.jpg?resize=600%2C388&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8904\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/amazon-warriors.jpg?w=600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/amazon-warriors.jpg?resize=300%2C194&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Archaeological discoveries of burial sites with female warriors on the Eurasian Steppes suggest that the Scythian women may have inspired the Amazon myth. In 2019 a grave with multiple generations of female Scythian warriors in golden headdresses was found near Russia&#8217;s Voronezh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"508\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/122767290_10157641944977703_3881596837552433157_n.jpg?resize=640%2C508&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8901\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/122767290_10157641944977703_3881596837552433157_n.jpg?w=960&amp;ssl=1 960w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/122767290_10157641944977703_3881596837552433157_n.jpg?resize=300%2C238&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/122767290_10157641944977703_3881596837552433157_n.jpg?resize=768%2C610&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>In 2017, a genetic study of the Scythians suggested that the Scythians were ultimately descended from the Yamna culture, and emerged on the Pontic steppe independently of peoples belonging to Scythian cultures further east. Based on the analysis of mithocondrial lineages, another later 2017 study suggested that the Scythians were directly descended from the Srubnaya culture. A later analysis of paternal lineages, published in 2018, found significant genetic differences between the Srubnaya and the Scythians, suggesting that the Srubnaya and the Scythians instead traced a common origin in the Yamnaya culture, with the Scythians and related peoples such as the Sarmatians perhaps tracing their origin to the eastern Pontic-Caspian steppes and the southern Urals. Another 2019 study also concluded that migrations must have played a part in the emergence of the Scythians as the dominant power of the Pontic steppe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"560\" height=\"420\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/amazon-women.jpg?resize=560%2C420&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8903\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/amazon-women.jpg?w=560&amp;ssl=1 560w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/amazon-women.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>So what does that have to do with Rh negative people and blood?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to <a href=\"http:\/\/mathii.github.io\/2017\/09\/21\/blood-groups-in-ancient-europe\">Blood groups in ancient Europe by Iain Mathieson<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I looked at these alleles in ancient samples dating to the past 12,000 years, all from West Eurasia. I divided them into four groups:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Hunter-gatherers (HG); Mesolithic and neolithic individuals with ancestry that is like that of Mesolithic Europeans.<\/li><li>Early Farmers (EF); Neolithic individuals from NW Anatolia, and European Neolithic individuals with similar ancestry, plus small (~0-20%) amounts of hunter-gatherer ancestry.<\/li><li><strong>Steppe (ST); Bronze Age individuals with \u201cYamnaya-like\u201d ancestry<\/strong><\/li><li>Bronze Age (BA); Individuals from Bronze Age Europe that have a mixture of the three other types of ancient ancestry.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>I also compared with present-day European populations, separating out Finns (FIN) and Non-Finns (NFE) (Finns have more steppe-like ancestry).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The ABO determining variants are on the 1240k capture array that has been used to genotype many samples, so I was able to look them up in a sample of around ~500 ancient individuals (the same individuals used&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biorxiv.org\/content\/early\/2017\/09\/19\/135616\">here<\/a>). I looked up present-day allele frequencies in&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/gnomad.broadinstitute.org\/\">gnomAD<\/a>. It\u2019s harder to genotype the&nbsp;<em>RHD<\/em>&nbsp;deletion from capture data so I used a smaller dataset of around ~200 individuals with published shotgun data to genotype this deletion. I couldn\u2019t find it in gnomAD so I used allele frequencies from 1000 Genomes.<ins><\/ins><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It turns out that the O allele is at high frequency in hunter-gatherers, but relatively rare on the Steppe. The B allele seems to be absent in both hunter-gatherers and early farmers, and seems to be introduced from the steppe in the Bronze Age. The Rh- allele seems to be relatively common in hunter-gatherers and, particularly, in steppe populations, and relatively rare in early farmers, partly confirming Haldane and Cavalli-Sforza\u2019s hypotheses. Allele frequency estimates are in the figures below (bars show 95% binomial confidence intervals).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"213\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/RHD_Allele_frequencies.jpg?resize=640%2C213&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8896\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/RHD_Allele_frequencies.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/RHD_Allele_frequencies.jpg?resize=300%2C100&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>If we compute expected phenotypic frequencies, this suggests that around around 65% of Mesolithic hunter-gatherers would have been type O, compared to around 40% in present-day Europeans, and <strong>around 40% of Steppe-ancestry individuals would have been Rh-<\/strong>, compared to around 24% of hunter-gatherers, 4% of early farmers, and about 16% of present-day Europeans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"213\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/RHD_Phenotype_frequencies.jpg?resize=640%2C213&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8895\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/RHD_Phenotype_frequencies.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/RHD_Phenotype_frequencies.jpg?resize=300%2C100&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Broadly speaking, the present-day frequencies are consistent with genome-wide ancestry, in the sense that they are just a mixture of the ancient populations (roughly equal to the Bronze Age). The Rh- frequency in present-day Europe is a bit lower than in the Bronze Age, which might be evidence for selection against the allele, but might also just be because there\u2019s a bit less Steppe ancestry in 1000 Genomes than in the samples Bronze Age populations. This doesn\u2019t really explain the Basque frequency though. The Basque population doesn\u2019t particularly have a lot of&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nature.com\/nature\/journal\/v522\/n7555\/fig_tab\/nature14317_F3.html\">hunter-gatherer or Steppe ancestry<\/a>. But perhaps there is substructure in Rh- frequencies within the Basque population, or within the hunter-gatherer populations. Finally, we\u2019ve explained the present-day frequency in terms of mixtures of ancestral populations, but really we have just pushed the question back ten thousand years. Why was the Rh- frequency so high in hunter-gatherer and Steppe populations? Clearly there has to be some selective advantage to this allele at some point, otherwise it would just have been removed everywhere. Perhaps in these populations that selective advantage was stronger. Or perhaps they were just sufficiently small that it was able to drift to high frequency.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Sources include:<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/news.nationalgeographic.com\/news\/2014\/10\/141029-amazons-scythians-hunger-games-herodotus-ice-princess-tattoo-cannabis\/\">http:\/\/news.nationalgeographic.com\/news\/2014\/10\/141029-amazons-scythians-hunger-games-herodotus-ice-princess-tattoo-cannabis\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.smithsonianmag.com\/history\/amazon-women-there-any-truth-behind-myth-180950188\/\">http:\/\/www.smithsonianmag.com\/history\/amazon-women-there-any-truth-behind-myth-180950188\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/archaeology\/.premium.MAGAZINE-amazon-warrior-women-russia-archaeology-scythian-greece-1.8327358\">https:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/archaeology\/.premium.MAGAZINE-amazon-warrior-women-russia-archaeology-scythian-greece-1.8327358<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC5337992\">https:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC5337992<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/28266657\/\">https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/28266657\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/30417088\">https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/30417088<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/31303491\/\">https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/31303491\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>See also:<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-wordpress aligncenter wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-rh-negative-blood-and-people\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ZKNxo4BaNf\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/blood-groups-in-ancient-europe-2\/\">Blood groups in ancient Europe<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;Blood groups in ancient Europe&#8221; &#8212; The Rh Negative Blog\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/blood-groups-in-ancient-europe-2\/embed\/#?secret=jREoUW23sD#?secret=ZKNxo4BaNf\" data-secret=\"ZKNxo4BaNf\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-wordpress aligncenter wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-rh-negative-blood-and-people\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"4hjgNT1PX2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/the-role-of-women-in-rh-negative-societies\/\">The role of women in rh negative societies<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);\" title=\"&#8220;The role of women in rh negative societies&#8221; &#8212; The Rh Negative Blog\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/the-role-of-women-in-rh-negative-societies\/embed\/#?secret=HE4ZaMuWaA#?secret=4hjgNT1PX2\" data-secret=\"4hjgNT1PX2\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png?w=640&#038;ssl=1\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_twitter_via = \"datebytype\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_twitter_via=\"datebytype\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"Who were the legendary Amazons?\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_twitter_via = \"datebytype\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_twitter_via=\"datebytype\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"Who were the legendary Amazons?\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>Archaeological discoveries of burial sites with female warriors on the Eurasian Steppes suggest that the Scythian women may have inspired the Amazon myth. In 2019 a grave with multiple generations of female Scythian warriors in golden headdresses was found near Russia&#8217;s Voronezh. In 2017, a genetic study of the Scythians suggested that the Scythians were ultimately descended from the Yamna culture, and emerged on the Pontic steppe independently of peoples belonging to Scythian cultures further east. Based on the analysis of mithocondrial lineages, another later 2017 study suggested that the Scythians were directly descended from the Srubnaya culture. A later analysis of paternal lineages, published in 2018, found significant genetic differences between the Srubnaya and the Scythians, suggesting that the <div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_twitter_via = \"datebytype\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_twitter_via=\"datebytype\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"Who were the legendary Amazons?\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":8904,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"amp_status":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8890","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-facts"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/amazon-warriors.jpg?fit=600%2C388&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5DV68-2jo","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8890","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8890"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8890\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9851,"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8890\/revisions\/9851"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/8904"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8890"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8890"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.rhesusnegative.net\/staynegative\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8890"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}